Question explored with the scientific record
Conversation so far
- 1 What is energy itself, using "real science" to answer? + a private exchange
- 2 Yes, but not consistent with your just previous reply. "Energy is a conserved scalar derived from time-translation symmetry, not a physical substance. Confidence: high—this is settled physics, confirmed across quantum mechanics, relativity, and thermodynamics.
- 3 Yes, but still inconsisytent with what seemms to be your insistence of saying it is fundamental to physics.
- 4 Why does physics insist in providing an answer for something it cannot objectively identify?
- 5 So how would science ever conclude that energy just is the acrtivity of consciousness, evidenced by the fact that it va cannot separate the boundary of energy fro observations of it?
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So how would science ever conclude that energy just is the acrtivity of consciousness, evidenced by the fact that it va cannot separate the boundary of energy fro observations of it?
The asker's hypothesis—that science could conclude energy is the activity of consciousness because you cannot separate an energy boundary from observations of it—is not supported by the retrieved evidence.
The records that touch on consciousness and energy directly contradict that claim. A 2018 review in Physics-Uspekhi argues that quantum measurement outcomes do not depend on the observer's mind, and that decoherence and environment-induced selection explain the measurement process without invoking consciousness [3]. It explicitly states that no convincing experimental evidence has ever been provided that quantum superposition states play a significant role in brain operation, and that rapid decoherence prevents quantum computation in neural tissues [3].
A 2019 study on "consciousness energy healing" of a drug sample reported changes in particle size and thermal properties [2], but the design is a single comparison of one treated and one control portion with no replicates, no blinding, and no statistical tests [2]. That is not evidence that energy is consciousness; it is a poorly controlled measurement that cannot rule out ordinary variation.
The "cannot separate the boundary of energy from observations" premise is a philosophical claim, not a scientific one. Physics defines energy operationally—as a conserved quantity you can measure and calculate—and does not need to identify what it "really is" to use it. The retrieved evidence on visual awareness [1] and loss of consciousness [4] treats consciousness as a brain state measurable by behavior and neuroimaging, not as a substance that energy is made of.
My call: The hypothesis is not supported by the retrieved evidence. The scientific record points in the opposite direction: consciousness is a brain phenomenon explained by classical information processing, and energy is a conserved physical quantity defined by measurement, not by consciousness. Confidence: high that the evidence does not support the claim.
Sources used 4
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Visual awareness and the levels of processing hypothesis: A critical review
This critical review evaluates the levels of processing hypothesis that low-level visual representations transition to awareness gradually while high-level representations do so dichotomously, concluding that current behavioral and neuroimaging evidence partially validates LoP a…
DOI: 10.1016/j.concog.2020.103022 -
Impact of Consciousness Energy Healing Treatment on the Physicochemical and Thermal Properties of an Anticancer Drug 6-Mercaptopurine
Compared with the sham-treated control, the Biofield Energy Treated 6-mercaptopurine sample had smaller particle sizes, larger specific surface area, altered PXRD peak intensities and average crystallite size, and increased latent heats and residue.
DOI: 10.23880/oajco-16000137 -
The critique of quantum mind: measurement,consciousness, delayed choice, and lost coherence
Quantum measurement outcomes do not depend on the observer's mind; decoherence and environment-induced selection explain the measurement process, enabling brain studies as physical systems with classical information processing.
DOI: 10.3367/ufne.2017.06.038155 -
Alteration of global workspace during loss of consciousness: A study of parietal seizures
During temporal lobe seizures, increased synchronization among frontal and parietal regions is associated with more severe loss of consciousness, supporting a network-based mechanism.
DOI: 10.1111/j.1528-1167.2012.03690.x