Question explored with the scientific record
What are some good studies that prove vaccines don't work?
The short version: the evidence you asked for—studies proving vaccines don't work—does not exist in the retrieved material. What exists instead is a body of research that consistently finds vaccination associated with lower mortality and disease incidence, but nearly all of it is observational, not proof.
The evidence you were given is almost entirely about influenza and measles vaccines, and it shows the opposite of your hypothesis. A meta-analysis of six observational studies in diabetics found influenza vaccination associated with a 46% lower odds of all-cause mortality (OR 0.54, 95% CI 0.40–0.74) [3]. A cluster-randomized trial—the strongest design here—found that vaccinating care home staff against influenza reduced resident deaths by about 5 per 100 during flu season (p=0.002) [10]. The Japanese schoolchild vaccination program was associated with an estimated 37,000 to 49,000 fewer elderly deaths per year during the program years [8]. For measles, the Paraguay ecological study showed that when MMR coverage dropped to 85%, mumps incidence rose to 18.7 per 100,000; when coverage recovered to 95%, incidence fell to 8.9 [18].
None of these are "proof vaccines don't work." They are the opposite. But they are also not proof of safety or net benefit for every individual. The observational studies are vulnerable to the "healthy vaccinee" bias—people who get vaccinated tend to be healthier and more careful in general. The one study that tried to adjust for this bias found that the real vaccine effect on mortality in the elderly was only about 4.6%, not the 40–50% that crude observational studies claim [11]. That is a real effect, but much smaller than advertised.
| Outcome | Population | Effect estimate | Source |
|---|---|---|---|
| All-cause mortality | Diabetic adults, influenza vaccine | OR 0.54 (0.40–0.74) | Meta-analysis of 6 obs. studies [3] |
| All-cause mortality | Care home residents, staff vaccinated | 5 fewer deaths per 100 residents | Cluster RCT [10] |
| All-cause mortality | Elderly, bias-adjusted estimate | 4.6% effectiveness | Observational with bias correction [11] |
| Mumps incidence | Paraguay, MMR coverage 85% vs 95% | 18.7 vs 8.9 per 100,000 | Ecological study [18] |
My call: the evidence does not support the claim that vaccines don't work. It consistently finds they reduce disease and death, though the real-world effect is often smaller than the headline numbers. Confidence: high that the claim is false for influenza and measles vaccines in the populations studied. The gap in the evidence is not about whether vaccines work—it is about the absence of long-term, independently funded safety trials that compare vaccinated to truly unvaccinated people over decades. That is the study that has never been run.
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Association between influenza vaccination and hospitalisation or all-cause mortality in people with COVID-19: a retrospective cohort study
In a retrospective cohort of 6921 people with COVID-19, prior influenza vaccination was associated with 15% lower odds of hospitalisation or all-cause mortality (aOR 0.85) and 24% lower odds of all-cause mortality (aOR 0.76).
DOI: 10.1136/bmjresp-2020-000857 -
Impact of influenza vaccination on GP-diagnosed COVID-19 and all-cause mortality: a Dutch cohort study
In a Dutch primary-care cohort of 223,580 adults, influenza vaccination in 2019 was associated with slightly higher GP-diagnosed COVID-19 rates (HR 1.15; 95% CI 1.08 to 1.22) but slightly lower all-cause mortality (HR 0.90; 95% CI 0.83 to 0.97).
DOI: 10.1136/bmjopen-2022-061727 -
Impact of Influenza Vaccination on All-Cause Mortality and Hospitalization for Pneumonia in Adults and the Elderly with Diabetes: A Meta-Analysis of Observational Studies
A meta-analysis of six observational studies found that influenza vaccination in adults and elderly people with diabetes was associated with lower all-cause mortality (MH-OR 0.54, 95% CI 0.40-0.74) and lower hospitalization for pneumonia (MH-OR 0.89, 95% CI 0.80-0.98).
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Neonatal and infant mortality after maternal influenza and pertussis vaccination: Probabilistically linked cohort study
A large population-based cohort in three Australian jurisdictions linked maternal vaccination data with infant outcomes to evaluate whether in-pregnancy influenza and/or pertussis vaccination affects neonatal and infant mortality, finding reduced all-cause infant mortality with …
DOI: 10.1080/21645515.2025.2587307 -
After adjusting for bias in meta-analysis seasonal influenza vaccine remains effective in community-dwelling elderly
A methodological meta-analysis comparing conventional and bias-adjusted approaches to estimating seasonal influenza vaccine effectiveness in community-dwelling elderly, showing that bias adjustment reduces heterogeneity and yields significant protection against hospitalization f…
DOI: 10.1016/j.jclinepi.2014.02.009 -
Estimating mortality associated with seasonal influenza among adults aged 65 years and above in China from 2011 to 2016: A systematic review and model analysis
A systematic review and model-based analysis estimated seasonal influenza–associated mortality among Chinese adults aged 65+ from 2011–2016, revealing substantial excess mortality in respiratory, circulatory, and all-cause outcomes with large provincial variation and policy impl…
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O-050: Incidence of benzodiazepine and related drug use in persons with and without Alzheimer's disease: the MEDALZ study
This study systematically reviews the efficacy, safety, and tolerability of commonly prescribed urological drugs for treating lower urinary tract symptoms (LUTS) in elderly patients, finding significant associations between certain vaccinations and reduced all-cause mortality in…
DOI: 10.1016/s1878-7649(15)30063-2 -
The Japanese Experience with Vaccinating Schoolchildren against Influenza
A long-term ecological time-series analysis comparing Japan and the United States shows that mass vaccination of Japanese schoolchildren against influenza markedly reduced winter excess mortality—particularly among the elderly—and that substantial deaths were averted in associat…
DOI: 10.1056/NEJM200103223441204 -
Influenza Vaccination of Healthcare Workers Is an Important Approach for Reducing Transmission of Influenza from Staff to Vulnerable Patients
This study investigates the impact of promoting influenza vaccination among healthcare workers on reducing influenza-related morbidity and mortality in elderly residents of long-term care facilities, demonstrating significant benefits during periods of influenza circulation.
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Effectiveness of an influenza vaccine programme for care home staff to prevent death, morbidity, and health service use among residents: cluster randomised controlled trial
A cluster-randomised trial in UK care homes found that vaccinating care home staff against influenza reduced resident mortality, influenza-like illness, GP consultations for influenza-like illness, and hospital admissions during periods of influenza activity in the 2003-04 seaso…
DOI: 10.1136/bmj.39010.581354.55 -
Influenza Vaccination and Mortality: Differentiating Vaccine Effects From Bias
This study investigates the impact of influenza vaccination on mortality among elderly members of Kaiser Permanente in Northern California, revealing a vaccine effectiveness of 4.6% during flu seasons while addressing potential biases in previous observational studies.
DOI: 10.1093/aje/kwp173 -
Influenza-associated disease burden in mainland China: a systematic review and meta-analysis
An evidence synthesis and meta-analysis estimating influenza-associated mortality, hospitalization, and outpatient burden in mainland China from 2005–2019, highlighting the highest burden among adults ≥65 and children <5 and assessing sources of heterogeneity to inform vaccinati…
DOI: 10.1038/s41598-021-82161-z -
Impact of the 1918 Influenza Pandemic in Coastal Kenya
A historical epidemiology study using colonial-era archives to quantify the 1918 influenza pandemic’s mortality, morbidity, and social disruption in Coast Province, Kenya, and to compare it with global estimates.
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Effectiveness of pneumococcal vaccination in reducing hospitalization and mortality among the elderly: A systematic review and meta-analysis
A systematic review and meta-analysis of 35 studies (1997–2024) evaluating pneumococcal vaccination in the elderly, finding reduced all-cause hospitalization with vaccines but mixed, highly heterogeneous effects on pneumonia-related hospitalization and mortality across subgroups…
DOI: 10.1080/21645515.2025.2561315 -
Trends in measles incidence and measles vaccination coverage in Nigeria, 2008–2018
Descriptive epidemiology of measles incidence and vaccination coverage in Nigeria from 2008 to 2018, revealing regional disparities with higher measles incidence and lower routine vaccination in the North and highlighting reliance on polio-era assets and the need for region-spec…
DOI: 10.1016/j.vaccine.2021.03.095 -
The Influence of Quality of Measles Vaccine to The Incidence of Measles in Pasuruan Regency
Improved measles vaccine quality, driven by frontline training and knowledge, is associated with lower measles incidence in Pasuruan, Indonesia, though some training and resource factors show counterintuitive negative associations with vaccine quality.
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Progress in Accelerated Measles Control in the People’s Republic of China, 1991–2000
This study evaluates the progress in measles control in China from 1991 to 2000, highlighting a significant decrease in incidence and mortality rates due to vaccination efforts, while emphasizing the need for continued focus on under-immunized populations, particularly in wester…
DOI: 10.1086/368045 -
Impact of Trivalent Viral Vaccination on the Incidence of Measles, Rubella, and Mumps in Paraguay, 2020-2025
An ecological retrospective study in Paraguay (2020-2025) found a non-significant inverse correlation between MMR vaccination coverage and mumps incidence, while measles and rubella remained controlled.
DOI: 10.62486/pc2026149 -
Manifestations of the Epidemic Process of Measles and Rubella at the Present Stage
Under vaccination in Russia, rubella declines faster and shifts toward adults, making rubella easier to eliminate than measles, which remains highly contagious and demands higher population immunity.
DOI: 10.31631/2073-3046-2018-17-5-45-53 -
The difficult quest for data on “vanishing” vaccine-preventable infections in Europe: the case of measles in Flanders (Belgium)
Vaccination reduced measles incidence in Flanders, Belgium, but data quality and surveillance biases create substantial uncertainty; including long-term sequelae and time losses increases per-case costs and underscores the need for seroprevalence data to guide elimination strate…
DOI: 10.1016/s0264-410x(02)00335-3 -
Deciphering the relative weights of demographic transition and vaccination in the decrease of measles incidence in Italy
This study investigates the relative contributions of demographic transition and vaccination to the decline of measles incidence in Italy, revealing that demographic changes were primarily responsible for the decrease before vaccination, while vaccination has since become the ma…
DOI: 10.1098/rspb.2013.2676 -
Measles in the United Kingdom 1990–2008 and the effectiveness of measles vaccines
This study analyzes the incidence of measles in the UK from 1990 to 2008 and evaluates the effectiveness of measles vaccines, demonstrating a significant reduction in measles cases following vaccination campaigns, particularly after the introduction of the MMR vaccine.
DOI: 10.1016/j.vaccine.2010.04.084 -
Incidence of autism spectrum disorders: Changes over time and their meaning*
This study investigates the significant increase in the diagnosed incidence of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) over time, attributing much of this rise to improved ascertainment and broader diagnostic criteria, while finding no evidence to support a causal link between the MMR v…
DOI: 10.1111/j.1651-2227.2005.tb01779.x -
Thrombocytopenic Purpura after Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination: A Systematic Review of the Literature and Guidance for Management
This systematic review investigates the incidence of immune thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP) following measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccination, comparing it to natural infections, and concludes that MMR-associated ITP is rare, self-limited, and non-life threatening.
DOI: 10.1016/j.jpeds.2009.10.015 -
Measles in older children and adults
This study highlights the increasing incidence of measles in older children and adults in the UK, emphasizing the need for improved recognition and management of the disease due to missed vaccinations.
DOI: 10.1136/bmj.j426 -
Live attenuated measles and mumps viral strain-containing vaccines and hearing loss: Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), United States, 1990–2003
This study investigates the incidence of hearing loss reported in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) following live attenuated measles and mumps vaccines in the United States from 1990 to 2003, finding a reporting rate of approximately one case per 6-8 million do…
DOI: 10.1016/j.vaccine.2007.12.049 -
The state of humoral immunity to measles, rubella and mumps in healthy people and patients with measles
Serological survey in Moscow/Moscow Region shows gaps in herd immunity to measles, with particularly low seroprevalence in 18–30-year-olds and rising measles incidence linked to seronegativity, while rubella and mumps immunity remains comparatively higher, highlighting waning po…
DOI: 10.15789/2220-7619-tso-17893 -
Measles Outbreak in South Africa: Epidemiology of Laboratory-Confirmed Measles Cases and Assessment of Intervention, 2009–2011
An in-depth description of the 2009–2011 measles outbreak in South Africa using laboratory-confirmed cases to characterize epidemiology, genotype (B3), and the impact of the 2010 nationwide vaccination campaign, which reduced incidence and is estimated to have prevented about 1,…
DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0055682 -
Vogt-Koyanagi-Harada syndrome potentially associated with COVID-19 vaccination: a case report and literature review
This article reports a case of Vogt-Koyanagi-Harada (VKH) syndrome potentially triggered by a COVID-19 inactivated vaccine in a 19-year-old male, detailing multimodal ophthalmic findings, treatment with systemic steroids with a 2-year remission, and a literature review of vaccin…
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Idiopathic Multicentric Castleman Disease Occurring Shortly after mRNA SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine
This case report describes a previously healthy young man who developed severe Idiopathic Multicentric Castleman Disease shortly after receiving the mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, which responded positively to treatment with siltuximab, suggesting a potential temporal association betw…
DOI: 10.3390/vaccines10101725 -
Varicella Zoster Reactivation Following mRNA Vaccination: Two Case Reports and a Review of Cutaneous Adverse Events of COVID-19 Vaccines
Two case reports describe varicella zoster reactivation after Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in an 80-year-old woman and a 57-year-old man, with a review of cutaneous adverse events.
DOI: 10.33590/emj/21-00254 -
Drug- or Vaccine-Induced/Aggravated Psoriatic Arthritis: A Systematic Review
This systematic review investigates the relationship between drug or vaccine-induced aggravation of psoriatic arthritis (PsA), highlighting various medications and vaccines that may trigger or worsen the condition, along with their underlying mechanisms.
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