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- 1 You seem to have managed to argue that vaccination against diphtheria has weak evidence for effectiveness. Can you tell me what the UK rate of death or serious morbidity was before mass vaccination, what it is now. Same for pertussis, please include chronic lung injury. For mumps, did you consider effects of late infection, such as male infertility? Oh, Polio, smallpox, don't tell me...they might die of something else or be paralysed in some other way.
- 2 When my parents were young, polio was a regular cause of paralysis and sometimes death, schools and public baths were closed when there was an epidemic. That doesn't happen now. A proper AI tells me that West African studies have shown increased female mortality for DTP especially after BCG. However, this was the old whole-cell vaccine, are there any results from the acellular vaccine used in the uk.
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When my parents were young, polio was a regular cause of paralysis and sometimes death, schools and public baths were closed when there was an epidemic. That doesn't happen now. A proper AI tells me that West African studies have shown increased female mortality for DTP especially after BCG. However, this was the old whole-cell vaccine, are there any results from the acellular vaccine used in the uk.
The short version: the retrieved evidence does not contain UK-specific mortality or morbidity rates for diphtheria, pertussis, mumps, polio, or smallpox, nor does it have the acellular DTP female-mortality studies you are asking about. What it does show is a clear safety difference between old whole-cell and newer acellular DTP.
The 2002 VAERS study directly compared the two formulations. Whole-cell DTP had about 79,400 endotoxin units per ml, while acellular DTaP had only 780 [1]. That 100-fold difference in endotoxin tracks with the adverse event rates: life-threatening reactions were 4.6 per million doses for whole-cell versus 2.9 for acellular, and deaths were 7.8 versus 3.4 per million [1]. A 1996 VAERS analysis found DTaP had about one-third the overall report rate of DTP (2.9 vs 9.8 per 100,000 doses) and lower rates of fever, seizures, and hospitalizations [3]. A 2021 Russian study confirmed that whole-cell DTP caused post-vaccination reactions in 22% of children versus 5.5% for acellular vaccines [2].
On the specific question of female mortality after acellular DTP, the retrieved evidence is silent. The West African studies that found excess female mortality after whole-cell DTP are not in this retrieval. No study here examines sex-disaggregated mortality for the acellular formulation used in the UK. The 2026 VAERS disproportionality analysis of 57,341 children under 7 found that injection site reactions dominated and that sex-stratified signals were nearly identical between males and females [5], but VAERS cannot measure mortality rates—it only counts reports.
The BCG interaction is also absent from these records. One study here looked at vitamin A with BCG and found sex-differential growth effects after later DTP [4], but that is not the same question.
| Formulation | Endotoxin (EU/ml) | Life-threatening reactions per million | Deaths per million |
|---|---|---|---|
| Whole-cell DTP | 79,400 ± 53,300 | 4.6 | 7.8 |
| Acellular DTaP | 780 ± 500 | 2.9 | 3.4 |
My call: the acellular DTP used in the UK is clearly safer than the old whole-cell version on short-term adverse events, but the retrieved evidence does not contain the sex-disaggregated mortality data you are asking about. Confidence: moderate on the safety difference, not clear on the female-mortality question.
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Serious neurological conditions following pertussis immunization: an analysis of endotoxin levels, the vaccine adverse events reporting system (VAERS) database and literature review
This study investigates the risks of serious neurological conditions following whole-cell DTP vaccination compared to acellular DTaP vaccination, revealing that whole-cell DTP contains significantly higher endotoxin levels and is associated with a greater incidence of adverse re…
DOI: 10.1080/1363849021000054031 -
Assessment of the timeliness of vaccination against pertussis in children of the first year of life and the reasons for the violation of the vaccination schedule
In 469 children, 14.9% lacked timely pertussis vaccination, mainly from parental misunderstanding and unjustified medical exemptions; whole-cell DTP caused more reactions than acellular vaccines, and interferon-alpha was linked to milder post-vaccination ARVI.
DOI: 10.22625/2072-6732-2021-13-2-79-86 -
The Safety of Acellular Pertussis Vaccine vs Whole-Cell Pertussis Vaccine
A postmarketing surveillance study using VAERS data compares acellular pertussis vaccine (DTaP) with whole-cell pertussis vaccine (DTP) in US children (1991–1993) and finds significantly lower rates of fever, seizures, and hospitalizations after DTaP, supporting its improved saf…
DOI: 10.1001/archpedi.1996.02170300011001 -
The Effect of 50 000 IU Vitamin A with BCG Vaccine at Birth on Growth in the First Year of Life
This study investigates the impact of neonatal vitamin A supplementation (VAS) combined with BCG vaccination on growth in the first year of life, revealing that while VAS may benefit boys' growth, it could adversely affect girls' growth when followed by DTP vaccination.
DOI: 10.1155/2011/570170 -
Diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis vaccine safety in children under 7 years: a post-marketing analysis of the U.S. vaccine adverse event reporting system
A VAERS disproportionality analysis of 57,341 children under 7 found mostly non-serious DTaP AEs, onset usually within 30 days, and local injection-site signals dominated; 143 PT signals remained positive after BH correction.
DOI: 10.3389/fcimb.2026.1733777