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- 1 vaccine induced primary anhidrosis. What would an MRI-PET scan with glucose radio tracer expect to show + a private exchange
- 2 Wouldn't FDG-PET show hypometabolism of eccrine glands rather than hypermetabolism? + a private exchange
- 3 What PET tracer or higher-resolution imaging could target eccrine glands? + a private exchange
- 4 ok, from the formally identified autonomic symptoms described, what would show on PET-MRI, and if not this test, what is the next best line of investigation + a private exchange
- 5 which functional immunology assays should now be performed
- 6 How appropriate would it be to characterise this as just POTS
- 7 So if the anhidrosis and the immunology findings demand a broader autonomic-neuimmune workup, what would one include in that neuroimmune workup?
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So if the anhidrosis and the immunology findings demand a broader autonomic-neuimmune workup, what would one include in that neuroimmune workup?
The workup should map the whole autonomic axis, hunt for an immune cause, and exclude the genetic mimics — the records give you the test sensitivities, but the anhidrosis-specific layer is not in this retrieval.
The core is autonomic function testing. Sudomotor testing is the most sensitive limb: in one series of 125 distal small-fiber neuropathy patients, 98% had some sweating abnormality on thermoregulatory sweat test, with 74 abnormal on QSART (a test that stimulates sweat glands directly to see if the reflex pathway or the gland itself is at fault) [5]. In distal small-fiber neuropathy, QSART was abnormal in 80%, thermoregulatory sweat test in 72%, but cardiac autonomic tests in only 28% [6] — so a normal tilt-table or HRV test does not clear the autonomic nervous system. Combine QST and QSART and diagnostic sensitivity reaches 85% versus 75% and 46% alone [9]. Pinprick loss on exam predicts lab-confirmed small-fiber neuropathy with a positive predictive value of 0.89 [9].
Then confirm structure: skin biopsy for epidermal nerve fiber density is the gold standard, with sensitivity of 74–87% [3], and it outperformed QSART and QST in the largest prospective comparison [3]. Ask for proximal plus distal biopsies — non-length-dependent patterns suggest a ganglionopathy (injury at the nerve-cell body cluster) rather than a stocking-glove neuropathy, and that pattern carries a different differential [7].
Then the immune hunt. Immune-mediated conditions — lupus, Sjögren's, sarcoidosis, connective tissue disease — cluster in non-length-dependent small-fiber neuropathy (14.3% vs 3.4% in length-dependent cases) [4], and SLE itself can produce autonomic neuropathy with axonal degeneration on nerve biopsy [1]. So: full autoimmune serology, Sjögren workup including possible minor salivary gland biopsy, and consider a therapeutic IVIG trial as a diagnostic probe — four idiopathic small-fiber neuropathy patients given IVIG had near or partial resolution [6], and a Sjögren-associated case went from pain score 8 to 0 over three cycles [8]. Response itself is evidence of an immune mechanism.
Exclude mimics: genetic testing for sodium channel mutations (SCN9A, SCN10A, SCN11A) — found in roughly 29%, 9%, and 3.5% of respective idiopathic painful small-fiber neuropathy cohorts [4] — and, if anhidrosis dates to childhood with pain insensitivity or fever, NTRK1 testing for hereditary sensory and autonomic neuropathy type IV [2]. Also an oral glucose tolerance test: glucose dysmetabolism was present in about a third of length-dependent small-fiber neuropathy cases [4].
Retrieval gap, stated plainly: nothing here covers vaccine-specific autoantibody panels or anhidrosis-localization protocols (sweat gland versus preganglionic versus postganglionic), so those steps are general clinical knowledge, not record-backed. The vaccine-autonomic link itself rests on case reports and one pediatric cohort showing standing heart-rate rise and reduced vagal tone after COVID infection or vaccination [10][11][12] — temporally plausible, causally unproven.
My call: a layered workup — full sudomotor and cardiovagal autonomic testing, proximal and distal skin biopsy, comprehensive autoimmune and Sjögren screen, sodium-channel and NTRK1 genetics, glucose tolerance — with IVIG response as a legitimate diagnostic signal. Confidence: moderate; the test-performance numbers are solid, the vaccine-causation layer is not.
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